Jul 14, 2021
On today’s episode of the LLVLC Show, Jimmy welcomes Sam Apple for an exciting conversation about his new book RAVENOUS.
“He found out that all these pathways that are activated in cancer are activated by insulin.”
In this interview, Jimmy talks to a science writing professor from Johns Hopkins named Sam Apple who recently released a book about the life and work of Otto Warburg entitled RAVENOUS: Otto Warburg, the Nazis, and the Search for the Cancer-Diet Connection. The book is spellbinding and reminds people of the history of Warburg’s Nobel Prize-winning ideas surrounding the metabolic connection to the treatment and prevention of the development of cancer. Jimmy and Sam go deep into the topic of sugar, insulin, metabolism, cancer, and more in this engaging interview!
In Ravenous, Sam Apple reclaims Otto Warburg as a forgotten, morally compromised genius who pursued cancer single-mindedly even as Europe disintegrated around him. While the vast majority of Jewish scientists fled Germany in the anxious years leading up to World War II, Warburg remained in Berlin, working under the watchful eye of the dictatorship. With the Nazis goose-stepping their way across Europe, systematically rounding up and murdering millions of Jews, Warburg awoke each morning in an elegant, antiques-filled home and rode horses with his partner, Jacob Heiss, before delving into his research at the Kaiser Wilhelm Society.
Hitler and other Nazi leaders, Apple shows, were deeply troubled by skyrocketing cancer rates across the Western world, viewing cancer as an existential threat akin to Judaism or homosexuality. Ironically, they viewed Warburg as Germany’s best chance of survival. Setting Warburg’s work against an absorbing history of cancer science, Apple follows him as he arrives at his central belief that cancer is a problem of metabolism. Though Warburg’s metabolic approach to cancer was considered groundbreaking, his work was soon eclipsed in the early postwar era, after the discovery of the structure of DNA set off a search for the genetic origins of cancer.
Remarkably, Warburg’s theory has undergone a resurgence in our own time, as scientists have begun to investigate the dangers of sugar and the link between obesity and cancer, finding that the way we eat can influence how cancer cells take up nutrients and grow. Rooting his revelations in extensive archival research as well as dozens of interviews with today’s leading cancer authorities, Apple demonstrates how Warburg’s midcentury work may well hold the secret to why cancer became so common in the modern world and how we can reverse the trend. A tale of scientific discovery, personal peril, and the race to end a disastrous disease, Ravenous would be the stuff of the most inventive fiction were it not, in fact, true.